Great news that 5deer is rideable again! Yeah I did a 25 mile loop up there with Hill^Billy last weekend.we started in agua dulce and climbed the ST up to Martingdale rd then explored our way accross an old double/single track over to Ana Verde mtwy then up to Hauser and down back to the car on a great ST. I started in Pamdale so got about 20 more miles and even more single track. so if you add 5deer and the climb back up that's another 12-15 miles. I can't really get out for a long ride until next Friday-Saturday but PM me if you are interested.